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'RPQtYDO jsem se , åH QiV spojuje VSROHþQi P\ãOHQND odporu ke VWiYDMtFtPX UHåLPX Byl jsem YGČþHQ YiP a YDãLP SĜiWHOĤP åH jste po letech PUWYROQp normalizace QDãOL odvahu ĜtFL VYp Qi]RU\ Byl jste PQČ P\ãOHQNRYČ EOt]Nê SRYDåRYDO jsem YiV za PRUiOQČ þLVWpKR a VWDWHþQpKR þORYČND Proto jsem se SĜLGDO na 9Dãt stranu, proto jsem po SURSXãWČQt z YČ]HQt podepsal Chartu 77. äH se PĤM podpis objevil v seznamu Då o rok SR]GČML to je vina /XGYtND 9DFXOtND Ale vina RGSRXãWČMtFt neboĢ on ViP PČO toho roku Då SĜtOLã mnoho VWDURVWt A SĜtOLã mnoho YêVOHFKĤ na StB, NWHUp PQČ WDNp þHNDO\ a pak se ]QiVRELO\ Co QiV UR]GČORYDOR .G\å jsme spolu vedli ve YČ]HQt na Borech v roce 1982 a NUiWFH i SRþiWNHP roku 1983 hovory o VRXþDVQp vQLWĜQt i PH]LQiURGQt situaci, SRYDåRYDO jsem YDãH stanoviska za Qi]RU\ SRQČNXG SRPDWHQpKR LQWHOHNWXiOD NWHUê QHYt o þHP KRYRĜt 2GPtWDO jste politiku ]EURMHQt Reaganovy YOiG\ jako politiku YHGRXFt k GDOãtPX PH]LQiURGQtPX QDSČWt a ke konfrontaci s EêYDOêP SSSR. Tvrdil jste, åH v ]iMPX PtUX je WĜHED rozpustit 9DUãDYVNRX smlouvu i NATO a SĜHVYČGþRYDO jste mne, åH by REČ velmoci, t.j. USA a SSSR, PČO\ zasednout k PtURYpPX MHGQiQt 1HFKWČO jste pochopit a nebyl jste ani ochoten akceptovat Qi]RU\ åH s WHKGHMãtP 6RYČWVNêP svazem se QHGi jinak KRYRĜLW QHå z pozice VtO\ QHERĢ se VNXWHþQČ jednalo o ĜtãL zla",jak ĜtNDO president Reagan. V GĤVOHGNX politiky EêYDOpKR SSSR byla QDãH ]HPČ v srpnu 1968 RNXSRYiQD v GĤVOHGNX WpWR politiky jsme byli oba, NDåGê z QiV QHMPpQČ GYDNUiWH ve YČ]HQt V GĤVOHGNX WpWR VRYČWVNp politiky byl u QiV po roce 1948 LQVWDORYiQ UHåLP NWHUê si nezadal s UHåLPHP MLQêFK GLNWiWRUĤ na FHOpP VYČWČ V GĤVOHGNX tohoto UHåLPX GRãOR WDNp k KOXERNp devastaci nejen SĜtURG\ ale OLGVNp PRUiON\ VYČGRPt a FKDUDNWHUĤ VWDWLVtFĤ OLGt FRå si ]HMPpQD QHFKWČMt SĜLSXVWLW ti, NWHĜt se pro tento ]ORþLQQê UHåLP DQJDåRYDOL a SiFKDOL jeho MPpQHP ]ORþLQ\ na VYêFK VSROXREþDQHFK V GĤVOHGNX WpWR a åiGQp MLQp VNXWHþQRVWL QHGRãOR k tak KUĤ]QêP þLQĤP MHå od doby Hitlerovy ĜtãH QHPDMt obdoby. 2VWDWQČ pak, PQRKp z WČFKWR Qi]RUĤ jste MHãWČ SR]GČML YHĜHMQČ KOiVDO i jako prezident ý6)5 0tVWR toho, abyste tyto ]ORþLQ\ odsoudil, vy jste je KiMLO a QDGiOH KiMtWH Obhajujete nejen SĤYRGFH YãHFK WČFKWR KDQHEQRVWt ale GRVSČO jste MLå tak daleko, åH z YLQtNĤ GČOiWH REČWL a z REČWt YLQtN\ tohoto stavu. Tento Yiã projev je MHGQR]QDþQê GĤND] toho, åH QHPiWH nebo nechcete PtW o UHDOLWČ GQHãND SUDYGLYê obraz a åH QHFKiSHWH nebo nechcete FKiSDW problematiku minulosti ani VRXþDVQRVWL Stal jste se ]DVWiQFHP ]ORþLQFĤ a jejich KOiVQRX troubou. Podle QDãHKR ]iNRQRGiUVWYt se ten, kdo ViP ]ORþLQ\ obhajuje, kryje nebo KiMt GRSRXãWt WUHVWQpKR þLQX V GHPRNUDWLFNp VSROHþQRVWL pokud bychom v Qt åLOL by tento MHGLQê fakt musel YpVW k YDãL abdikaci! Vy se YãDN v rozporu s YDãtP WYU]HQtP KRGOiWH VWiW GRåLYRWQtP prezidentem a v WpWR funkci byste se FKWČO ]ĜHMPČ GRþNDW i VWiWQtKR SRKĜEX 3URþ jsme se UR]HãOL Moje znalosti o YDãL þLQQRVWL jsou YãDN SRQČNXG UR]SRUQp 13.prosince 1989 jste vyslal VYp emisary do 9DOGãWHMQVNpKR SDOiFH kde YDãtP MPpQHP jednali se ]iVWXSFL KSý NWHUp vedl WHKGHMãt QHMY\ããt VYD]iN Mohorita. Tam byla GRKRYRĜHQD zrada na QDãLFK QiURGHFK 9iP byl SĜLVOtEHQ ~ĜDG prezidenta ý665 a vy jste za to VOtELO nedotknutelnost a QHSRVWLåLWHOQRVW NRPXQLVWLFNêFK ]ORþLQFĤ a ]DFKRYiQt status quo ve vnitru a v DUPiGČ Tento fakt SR]GČML potvrdil i VYêP dopisem velvyslanec 6OiQVNê jr., NWHUpKR jste QHSURGOHQČ vyslal a dosud ponechal v 0RVNYČ 9DãL YDOãWHMQRVNRSDOiFRYt HPLVDĜL se YãLFKQL do jednoho GRþNDOL GREUêFK ]DVORXåHQêFK, ale i UR]KRGXMtFtFK PtVW ve VWiWQt VSUiYČ 1HMYtFH na ministerstvu ]DKUDQLþQtFK YČFt SR]GČML SĜtPR u YiV na +UDGČ jako YêUD] YDãLFK GtNĤ za 9DãH SUH]LGHQWVNp ]YROHQt 3ĜHVWRåH o WpWR hanebnosti byly SĜLQHVHQ\ GĤND]\ a byl jste Y\]YiQ, abyste se k nim SĜL]QDO nebo zaujal VYp stanovisko, zahalil jste se POþHQOLYRVWt A nebo se SRYDåXMHWH za þORYČND NWHUê QHQt povinen se ze VYp þLQQRVWL nikomu ]RGSRYtGDW Jako SĜ bych FKWČO XYpVW QČNWHUp ze ]DKUDQLþQtFK cest, NWHUp YiV XVYČGþXMt z prolhanosti. Byl jste v Mexicu a SURKODãRYDO jste, åH odtud dostaneme ropu. Je to VWHMQp EOi]QRYVWYt jako 'XEþHNĤY dovoz XKOt z $XVWUiOLH Byl jste v Nicaragui a tvrdil jste, åH Y\PĤåHWH dluhy. A tak bych mohl SRNUDþRYDW Vyjel jste na -LåQt PČVWR a pomlouval ]GHMãt NUiOtNiUQ\ Nic se YãDN za YDãHKR SDQRYiQt QH]PČQLOR Jen to, åH WHć se QHVWDYt YĤEHF nic a OLGp QHPDMt kde bydlet. S velkou VOiYRX jste si GUåHO nos na KUĤ]DPL VHYHUQtFK ýHFK 9ãHFKQR jste VSUiYQČ zkritizoval, SĜHGQHVO jste VYp GHPDJRJLFNp Qi]RU\ ale nestalo se nic. 6StãH je to KRUãt SURWRåH EêYDOê komunista 'ORXKê SRNUDþRYDO v QLþHQt GDOãtFK REFt DþNROLY jste SURKODãRYDO opak. 3ĜHNYDSHQt .G\å jsem 10.prosince 1989 SĜLMHO po letech exilu do Prahy a GR]YČGČO jsem se VORåHQt QRYp YOiG\ v t.zv. SRVWNRPXQLVWLFNp VSROHþQRVWL QHFKWČOR se PQČ YČĜLW åH SĜHGVHGRX YOiG\ je QRPHQNODWXUQt EROãHYLN ýDOID a åH jste NĜHVOR ministra obrany VYČĜLO SXþLVWRYL Vackovi a na Hrad i do vliG\ instaloval QHSRFK\EQp agenty KGB, z QLFKå QČNWHĜt tam jsou pro YiV jako QHSRVWUDGDWHOQt dodnes. Tehdy jsem se GRPQtYDO åH je to VRXþiVW YDãt SURP\ãOHQp strategie QHNUYDYp revoluce. Teprve dopis syna jednoho ze ]ORþLQFĤ WpWR ]HPČ jehRå matku QiP ýHVNi televize QHGiYQR prezentovala jako div ne ]DVORXåLORX demokratku, PQČ RWHYĜHO RþL 9ãHFKQR byla IDOHãQi hra, podlost a ]ORþLQ VSiFKDQê na lidu WpWR ]HPČ a vy hrajete DEVXUGQt komedii podle vzoru YDãLFK DEVXUGQtFK her. 3ĜL VYpP SUYQtP UR]KODVRYpP a WHOHYL]QtP projevu z Hradu v lednu 1990 jste ĜHNO åH se "z WČFKWR PtVW lhalo". A vy ViP dosud OåHWH a ]DVWtUiWH REMHNWLYQt pravdu a VNXWHþQRVWL Ve VYpP ]iMPX v ]iMPX VYp SêFK\ MHãLWQRVWL pocitu GĤOHåLWRVWL a GRPQČQN\ åH jste MHGLQê YKRGQê a VFKRSQê YpVW tuto zemi jako prezident. Prezident v roli REKiMFH ]ORþLQFĤ 3URKOiVLO jste, åH ]YHĜHMQČQt VH]QDPĤ VSROXSUDFRYQtNĤ StB v 1HFHQ]XURYDQêFK QRYLQiFK ]SĤVRELOR þHWQp OLGVNp tragedie, anLå jste uvedl NRQNUHWQt SĜtSDG\ -i na UR]GtO od YiV WĜHEDåH jsem PČO jen omezenou PRåQRVW SĜtVWXSX k GRNXPHQWĤP StB bych FKWČO XYpVW opak. Na UR]GtO od YiV budu jmenovat SĜtVOXãQtN\ a agenty StB SOQêPL MPpQ\ aby se QDãL REþDQp GR]YČGČOL pravdu o VYêFK VSROXREþDQHFK Nebudu SOêWYDW zkratkami jmen jako 2â09 a SRGREQČ SURWRåH PQČ nic QHĜtNDMt Nebudu WDNp s YiPL polemizovat, zda ]ORþLQ\ StB a jejich SRPDKDþĤ ]SĤVRELO\ YtFH þL PpQČ zla, QHå ]YHĜHMQČQp seznamy. Jsem WRWLå na UR]GtO od YiV SĜHVYČGþHQ o tom, åH tato organizace, ne QHSRGREQi SS, SA, SD nebo Gestapu, byla organizace ]ORþLQHFNi a åH jejich SRPDKDþL byli a jsou ]ORþLQFL a PČOL by se za svoji þtQQRVW ]RGSRYtGDW Ale to byste QHVPČO 13.prosince 1989 VOtELW jejich beztrestnost a nedoknutelnost. 9iP ãOR ]ĜHMPČ o SUH]LGHQWVNê post mnohem YtFH QHå o YiPL proklamovanou spravedlnost, pravdu a OiVNX Nakonec jste VYĤM postoj Y\MiGĜLO panu 'U,QJ$QGČORYL NG\å jste SURKOiVLO åH v tpWR zemi åiGQê hon na komunisty nebude. 6RXKODVtP proto s Y\MiGĜHQtP Johna Boka, åH FHOi tato SOHMiGD ]ORþLQFĤ YVWiYDMH lehaje PĤåH GČNRYDW Bohu za YiV a YDãH SUH]LGHQWRYiQt .G\å jsem PČO QHGiYQR PRåQRVW QDKOpGQRXW do ]DFKRYDQêFK GRNXPHQWĤ StB a KRYRĜLW o nich s lidmi, NWHĜt YČGt o þHP KRYRĜt je PRåQR si Y\WYRĜLW MHGQR]QDþQê a SUDYGLYê ]iYČU .DåGê kdo se stal agentem WpWR PRFQp YêERUQČ RUJDQL]RYDQp Y\FYLþHQp a Y\]EURMHQp organizace, stal se MtP GREURYROQČ a s SOQêP YČGRPtP Mohli bychom diskutovat o SRKQXWFtFK WČFKWR OLGt Byly UĤ]Qp od vady FKDUDNWHUĤ SRGOp]DYRVWL MHãLWQRVWL touhy po moci þL beztrestnosti Då po docela RE\þHMQRX ]EDEČORVW Ale NDåGê si PČO XYČGRPLW GĜtYH QHå QDPRþLO pero k podpisu, åH se GiYi do "spolku s ćiEOHP A YČWãLQRX YãLFKQL mysleli, åH budou na ~NRU VYêFK VSROXREþDQĤ EH]WUHVWQt Då do smrti a åH se to nikdy nikdo QHGR]Yt SURWRåH tenhle UHåLP bude QDYČN\ jako SURNODPRYDQi Hitlerova 7ĜHWt ĜtãH Ale jak vidno, se zklamali. 1HMYtFH ti, NWHĜt takovou VSROXSUiFL podepisovali MHãWČ v roce 1989! 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V GREČ kdy se WLVtFH YČ]ĖĤ doslova PDþNDO\ v FHOiFK na SiU þWYHUHþQêFK metrech, vy jste PČO na 3DQNUiFL dvoucelu a na Ruzyni jste SREêYDO v cele XUþHQp pro 13 osob ViP Zeptejte se WLVtFĤ SROLWLFNêFK YČ]ĖĤ NWHUp jak jste PČO ViP SĜtOHåLWRVW na vlaVWQt RþL YLGČW a VO\ãHW a NWHUp jste na VHWNiQt s nimi v Belvederu ]HVPČãĖLO jak åLOL jak je WUiSLOL a SRVtODOL do NRUHNFt s EHWRQRYêPL podlahami s SRORYLþQt GiYNRX åUiGOD SURWRåH to, co YČ]HĖVNê V\VWpP produkoval jako stravu, se jinak ani nazvat nedalo. 9]SRPHĖWH si WDNp na VYp YêVDGQt SRVWDYHQt a EDOtN\ o NWHUêFK se PQRKêP jen mohlo ]GiW ]DWtPFR YČWãLQD z QiV PČOD po celou dobu YêNRQX trestu EDOtN\ ]DNi]DQp 3ĜLSRPtQiP åH YČWãLQD z GR]RUFĤ NWHĜt QiV ve YČ]HQt ãLNDQRYDOL vyhURåRYDOL QiP VPUWt nebo QiV POiWLOL VORXåt GiO a QČNWHĜt z nich byli s YDãtP YČGRPtP SRYêãHQL ve IXQNFtFK a hodnostech, DþNROLY by se PČOL ]RGSRYtGDW za VYp ]ORþLQ\ Jako SĜtNODG XYiGtP PMU08'U%RUXVtND SUiYČ toho, NWHUê YiV FKWČO klidnČ nechat ve YČ]HQt FKFtSQRXW jak se ViP Y\MiGĜLO 7Hć 9iV VDPR]ĜHMPČ QH]Qi jako nepoznal i PQČ A mohl bych mluvit o GHVtWNiFK MLQêFK A to pominu VORåHQt *HQHUiOQtKR ĜHGLWHOVWYt 9Č]HĖVNp VOXåE\ o NWHUpP se i pan ministr 1RYiN nerad zPLĖXMH ale KODYQČ kritizoval 'UâHWLQX åH QHY\þLVWLO *HQHUiOQt prokuraturu". 5DþWH si nechat SĜHGORåLW dokumenty o jejich minulosti, nebo se SRGtYHMWH do VWiOH XWDMRYDQêFK PDWHULiOĤ t.zv. 9QLWĜQt ochrany, þLOL StB ve Sboru QiSUDYQp YêFhovy. Kdo byl opravdu Y\REFRYiQ" Jestli si pane Havle mnoho OLGt P\VOt åH jsou Y\REFRYiQL "z obce", pak se o toto Y\REFRYiQt SĜLþLQLOL sami. Na UR]GtO od YDãHKR Y]QHãHQpKR SR]QiQt ]QiP mnoho OLGt NWHĜt v minulosti a MHãWČ i budoucnosti budou na þHUQêFK OLVWLQiFK SURWRåH nebyli v .6ý tuto organizaci kritizovali nebo kritizovali lidi, NWHĜt o jejich osudech UR]KRGXMt dosud v t.zv. VWiWQtFK SRGQLFtFK nebo jinde, kde se dostali do UR]KRGXMtFtFK PRFHQVNêFK YOLYQêFK pozic. Jen pro oVYČåHQt YDãL NUiWNp SDPČWL Pan JHQHUiOQt ĜHGLWHO âNRG\ 3O]HĖ nebo ĜHGLWHO *UDPRIRQRYêFK ]iYRGĤ v /RGČQLFtFK Dnes k tomu zas VWDþt QDSĜ kritizovat YiV aby byl þORYČN WRWiOQČ ]QLþHQ 1HYČĜtWH" Pak YiP SĜLSRPHQX dopis YDãHKR poskoka DobrovsNpKR NWHUê PQČ poslal v roce 1990 NG\å jste ho XGČODO naprosto QHVFKRSQpKR ministrem obrany. -i jsem se nemohl YUiWLW do DUPiG\ SURWRåH jsem kritizoval pana prezidenta, nebo-­li YiV" Co se tedy YODVWQČ ]PČQLOR" Vy XSR]RUĖXMHWe na SiU SĜtNODGĤ åH OLGp ]WUiFHMt ]DPČVWQiQt Kdyby se jich YČWãLQD QHEiOD a z WČFK NWHĜt nikdy nebyli v .6ý se stali kritici VRXþDVQêFK ERVVĤ s EêYDORX OHJLWLPDFt mohla by situace vypadat jinak. To je WDNp jeden z SĜtNODGĤ YDãHKR manipulRYiQt s fakty. 'DOãt SĜtNODG toho, jak by se QHPČO chovat prezident. Moc Y\GtUDOD REþDQ\ Podle YiV moc Y\GtUDOD REþDQ\ S WtP je PRåQR souhlasit, ale MLå PpQČ s GDOãtP ]GĤYRGQČQtP A SUiYČ proto PQČ tak velice SĜHNYDSXMH åH na MHGQp VWUDQČ YtWH YãH o ]UĤGQRVWL moci a WRWDOLWQtKR ]Ĝt]HQt a na GUXKp VWUDQČ se WČFK NWHĜt tyto QH]iNRQQRVWL SiFKDOL PRFt VYpKR ~ĜDGX YHKHPHQWQČ ]DVWiYiWH SĜLþHPå ]DSRPtQiWH na jejich REČWL Obklopil jste se SOHMiGRX OLGt s velice SRGH]ĜHlou PLQXORVWt mnohdy WDNp jen proto, åH se SURKODãRYDOL za XPČOFH ke NWHUêP se SRþtWiWH i vy. Jste to vy, NWHUê MHGQR]QDþQČ ]RGSRYtGiWH za marasmus WpWR VSROHþQRVWL za to, åH ]ORþLQFL nebyli SRKQiQL SĜHG soud a odsouzeni. Vy jste to byl, NWHUê spolupracoval s YOiGRX vedenou QRPHQNODWXUQtP EROãHYLNHP ýDOIRX vy jste ustanovil do NĜHVHO PLQLVWUĤ ]ORþLQFH SRYêãLO jste do Y\VRNêFK JHQHUiOVNêFK KRGQRVWt EêYDOp VSROXSUDFRYQtN\ nebo SĜtPR SUDFRYQtN\ StB, VKR a KGB nebo svp naprosto QHVFKRSQp SĜiWHOH 1HSĜHNYDSLOR mne proto ani, åH jste RSČW na Hrad instaloval pana 'REURYVNpKR NWHUê utratil naprosto ]E\WHþQČ jako ministr obrany GDĖRYêP SRSODWQtNĤP YtFH jak 60 miliard .þV DQLå zato þHVNRVORYHQVNi DUPiGD byla schopna cokoliv zajistit.Ten SiQ se QHQDXþLO ani SRĜiGQČ ĜtGLW auto. Jak potom mohl ĜtGLW QČFR daleko VORåLWČMãtKR jako byla DUPiGD z Qtå byl kdysi vyhozen. Nikdy QiP ale QHĜHNO SURþ -i jen YtP åH NG\å byl QČNGR QČNG\ za totality vyhozen z DUPiG\ nebo EH]SHþQRVWL nemohl MLå GČODW nic. Proto PQČ SĜHNYDSXMH jeho SR]GČMãt studium a þLQQRVW v 0RVNYČ Za co si ji pan 'REURYVNê ]DVORXåLO" 1HGLYtP se proto dnes panu %DXG\ãRYL åH QiSUDYD SiQČ 'REURYVNpKR SRþtQiQt v DUPiGČ SRWUYi ĜDGX let.A QDYtF jste dopustil, åH si tento SiQ dovolil Y\NOiGDW a SRUXãRYDW ]iNRQ\ podle VYêFK SĜHGVWDY a jako YêVPČFK spravedlnosti si z Y\KR]HQpKR JHQHUiOD Vacka, FRå PQČ MLVWČ do smrti nezapomenete, XGČODO VYpKR poradce. 1HSRFK\EQpKo agenta KGB, jednoho z WČFK NWHĜt SĜHV dvacet let prokazovali oddanost VRYČWVNpPX UHåLPX SON'LYLãH jste SĜHV YHãNHUi XSR]RUQČQt SRYêãLO do hodnosti JHQHUiOD 6WHMQČ tak bych mohl jmenovat celou SOHMiGX WČFKWR OLGt SĜHV pana %L]tND Gavlase a GDOãtFK z QLFKå jste PQRKêP GiYQR SRWp co byla jejich VSROXSUiFH SURNi]iQD SURSĤMþLO Y\VRNi VWiWQt Y\]QDPHQiQt nebo je SRYêãLO do Y\VRNêFK DUPiGQtFK KRGQRVWt Havel a SULPLWLYQt antikomunismus ýHVNRX ]HPt se UR]ãtĜLO primitLYQt antikomunismus jako ]iVWČUND pro DNWLYQt EROãHYLN\ NWHĜt MHãWČ QHGiYQR nosili rudou KYČ]GX na NORSČ a NQtåNX WpåH barvy v kapse. 0QR]t z nich, co VHUYLOQČ MHãWČ v roce 1989 SRåDGRYDOL SĜLMHWt za þOHQD .6ý þL byli ~VSČãQêPL VWĜHOFL v /LGRYêFK PLOLFt jsou dnes þOHQ\ þHVNp YOiG\ a nikomu to WpPČĜ QHYDGt Ani Konfederaci SROLWLFNêFK YČ]ĖĤ a to je ]HMPpQD SĜHNYDSXMtFt 0QR]t EêYDOt þOHQRYp .6ý NWHĜt nikdy nikomu QHXEOtåLOL a VYêP þOHQVWYtP si ]DMLãĢRYDOL klid pro sebe þi rodinu, jsou velmi þDVWR YOiþHQL tiskem. 0QR]t moji PLOt VSROXREþDQp NWHĜt naopak nikdy v .6ý nebyli se YãDN chovali a mnohdy MHãWČ FKRYDMt KĤĜH QHå jejich EêYDOt SDUWDMQt NROHJRYp Kdybyste FKWČO tohle YãHFKQR YČGČW PiWH PRåQRVW Pan Ruml by YiP mohl ĜtFL kolik XGiQt GRVWiYi policie na REþDQ\ MDNi je statistika. 0\VOtWH åH jich je PpQČ" Ale kdepak, PLOê pane moralisto! 0QRKRQiVREQČ YtFH O þHPSDN to asi VYČGþt" %Xć o tom, åH tenhle QiURG je WRWiOQČ GHPRUDOL]RYiQ a nebo åH YDãH PRUDOL]RYiQt jaksi nebere YiåQČ 7DNp proto, åH si PQR]t P\VOt åH vy nejste ten SUDYê kdo by PČO o PRUiOFH KOiVDW A abych byl NRQNUpWQt pane prezidente a nechodil kolem KRUNp NDãH jako vy a QHXYiGČO jen zkratky jejich jmen. Jak se chovali PLOt VSROXREþDQp .G\å mne vzala "do SUiGOD v roce 1976 FKRPXWRYVNi EH]SHþQRVW GR]YČGČO jsem se, åH PQČ udali dva moji VSROXSUDFRYQtFL Jeden z nich byl QHVWUDQtN a na .6ý QDGiYDO kudy chodil. Ale ]ĜHMPČ jen naoko. Jmenuje se Alois ýHUQê a je z Jirkova. 6SROXSUDFRYQtN FKRPXWRYVNp EH]SHþQRVWL opilec a ]ORGČM a VRXþDVQČ i SĜHGVHGD ]iYRGQt organizace .6ý na ]iYRGČ 22 n.p.Plynostav Pardubice se jmenuje 9LOpP Kohlenberger. A jim asistovala milenka jednoho z SROLFDMWĤ Zdena +ODYDWi bytem WDPWpå To ]QDPHQi YãLFKQL z Jirkova P\VOtP åH MLUNRYVNêP SROLFDMWĤP by to 6OiGNRYR auto SURVSČOR 3ĜHVWRåH PQČ nic QHGRNi]DOL SURåLO jsem QČNROLN PČVtFĤ v MiFK\PRYVNpP NULPLQiOX a PČOR to dopad pro celou rodinu. 'ČWL PČO\ SUREOpP se studiem, PDQåHOND v ]DPČVWQiQt a Mi SĜLãHO o SUiFL Nikdo z QiV QHSRPêãOHO na "skok z mostu" nebo na MDNpNROLY VSiFKiQt VHEHYUDåG\ Jen jsme doufali, åH QČNG\ dojde ke ]PČQČ k obratu k OHSãtPX a XGDYDþL dostanou ]DVORXåLORX RGPČQX YþHWQČ SiQĤ od SNB, StB, VRXGFRYp þL SURNXUiWRĜL RNUHVQtKR soudu v &KRPXWRYČ a NUDMVNpKR soudu v ÒVWt nad Labem. %RKXåHO se nestalo nic, YĤEHF nic! YDãt ]iVOXKRX pane prezidente! Nikoho MLQpKR QHå YiV Pak jsem podepsal Chartu 77. =DþDO jsem YiP a YDãLP HVWpEiFNêP GRQDãHþĤP GČODW , Mi blbec, NĜRYt Od Wp doby ]DþDOR peklo nejen pro PQČ ale pro celou rodinu. V roce 1978 QiP PQČ a Pp åHQČ WHKGHMãt ãpI StB v 3DUGXELFtFK pan PMU9RQGUiþHN QDEt]HO sSROXSUiFL A QDEt]HO s WtP i OXNUDWLYQt ]DPČVWQiQt ]PČQX MPpQD a PRåQRVW SĜHVWČKRYiQt do PtVWD NWHUp si vybereme. 2GPtWOL jsme. äHQX vyhodili ze ]DPČVWQiQt syn musel na vojnu a PQČ se MLå nic YtFH nemohlo VWiW QHå åH PQČ znovu ]DYĜHOL. A RSČW se QDãOL VSUiYQt -LGiãL A SURWRåH o tom YãHP H[LVWXMt protokoly a Mi PČO zcela QHGiYQR PRåQRVW je YLGČW a þtVW tak GiYHMWH bacha, pane prezidente. Udal PQČ RSČW QHVWUDQtN ]DPČVWQDQHF SRGQLNRYpKR ĜHGLWHOVWYt 3R]HPQtFK staveb v Hradci .UiORYp -LĜt Sochor (1924), bytem WDPWpå A asistovali mu XGDYDþ-­VSROXSUDFRYQtN StB JUDr.Vlastimil .UHMþD (1929),bytem -LþtQ VRXGUXåND SRVODQN\QČ Jana -iQRãRYi z Opatovic nad /DEHPVRXGUXåND ,QJ6ODYtNRYi ze Sobotky, pan VeselovsNê takto KODYQt NiGURYiN WČFKWR 3R]HPQtFK staveb YþHWQČ OKiĜH pana .DOiWD NWHUê tam byl za .6ý jako ĜHGLWHO 3ĜLVDGLOD si i MDNiVL Eva âOHFKWRYi PDQåHOND ODPSDViND a Iva .ĜLYNRYi REČ z Hradce .UiORYp 7Hć mohou SĜtEX]Qt WČFKWR bezFKDUDNWHUQtFK PL]HUĤ VNRþLW do Labe, z mostu, nebo si "hodit PDãOL 3ĜHGSRNOiGiP åH SĜHG VYêPL EOLåQtPL a VSROXSUDFRYQtN\ tuhle WRWDOLWQt þLQQRVW WDMt A abych byl VSUDYHGOLYê a na nikoho QH]DSRPQČO WĜHED by jim to bylo OtWR tak jeãWČ GRGiYiP MPpQD GDOãtFK dvou YêWHþQtNĤ z WHKGHMãtFK 3R]HPQtFK staveb, milce rumu a YãHOLNpKR chlastu (YåHQD 3ĤKRQpKR a pana 'XFKRQČ 3RVOXãWH si GiP\ a SiQRYp dokumenty jsou k dispozici. Budete-­li PtW QiPLWN\ PĤåHPH ]DþtW HVWpEiFNp protokoly k SRWČãH QDãHKR UR]PLOpKR pane prezidenta otiskovat na SRþNiQt Kdyby to nebyla tragedie, NWHUi postihla mne a celou rodinu, tak byste si SRþHWOL I na +UDGČ 7ĜHED o tom, jak jsem PČO ve VNOHSČ v 3DUGXELFtFK schovanou atomovou pumu! âNRGD åH jsem ji QHPČO GiYQR bych zbavil tuhle zemi YãHFK ]ORþLQFĤ XVtGOHQêFK WHQNUiW na QiEĜHåt u Vltavy). 6DPR]ĜHMPČ YãH se GiOR pod taktovkou kpt.StB JUDr.Petra äiND NWHUê potom dokonce SRYêãLO na ãpID 10.odboru 6SUivy SNB NRQWUDUR]YČGND a por. StB Ladislava Riedla. Toho äiND NWHUpKR vy FKUiQtWH .WHUê ]DWêNDO v 3DUGXELFtFK PQČ SR]GČML v Praze YiV a se NWHUêP jsme se VHãOL NG\å QiV oba ãSHKRYDO MLå jako ãpI 10.odboru, v restauraci Pod Kinskou v Praze 5. A RSČW se SĜLGDOL GDOãt PLOt VSROXREþDQp QDSĜ pan 2OGĜLFK Hampl, NWHUê si dokonce nechal na EDONyQČ domu instalovat SWDþt klec, aby do Qt mohla StB zamontovat WHOHYL]Qt kameru na QDãH VOHGRYiQt Asistovala i jeho åHQD IXQNFLRQiĜka .6ý a jeho matka, NWHUi si k YĤOL tomu uhnala ]iSDO SOLF9ãLFKQL VDPR]ĜHMPČ bytem v 3DUGXELFtFK Od roku 1990(!?) to Y\ãHWĜRYDOD SRVWXSQČ prokuratura NUDMVNi i RNUHVQt v Hradci .UiORYp 9RMHQVNi REYRGRYi prokuratura v Hradci .UiORYp a v Plzni, RNUHVQt prokuratura v 3DUGXELFtFK i REYRGRYi prokuratura v Praze i ÒĜDG pro Y\ãHWĜRYiQt v Praze a YêVOHGHN pane prezidente? 9HOLNi nula! 9ãHFKQR SUREtKDOR v PH]tFK ]iNRQD V PH]tFK ]ORþLQQêFK NRPXQLVWLFNêFK ]iNRQĤ NWHUêP jste SRåHKQDO
1DãL YČ]QLWHOp a jejich QiVOHGRYQtFL A mohli bychom SĜLMtW k EDFKDĜĤP To QHMKRUãt se VHãOR v t.zv. Sboru QiSUDYQp YêFKRY\ a YČWãLQRX je tam GRGQHVětNDOR se a asi to SODWt dodnes, åH kdo se nehodil k DUPiGČ nebo k policii, VNRQþLO u Sboru QiSUDYQp YêFKRY\ =YČUVWYD Y-iFK\PRYČ v Hradci .UiORYp 9DOGLFtFK na 3DQNUiFL v 3ĜtEUDPL a Plzni-­Borech by ]DVORXåLOD ]YOiãWQt kapitolu. 3RYtGiQt WĜHED o tom, jak PQČ MiFK\PRYVNê QiþHOQtN ODVNDYČ Y\SUiYČO åH PQČ PĤåH RGVWĜHOLW jako psa a na GĤND] vyndal pistoli ze stolu. Jak EDFKDĜL MPpQHP âUiPNRYp (jeden z Hradce .UiORYp a GUXKê z 3O]QČ PQČ ]WUSþRYDOL åLYRW Jak hnusnej parchant MPpQHP 6HGOiþHN s hlasem KDUpPRYpKR eunucha na QiV v Plzni ĜYDO Vy jste se WĜiVO strachy a PQČ proto, åH jsem se YiV zastal, poslal do GtU\ neboli korekce, kde bylo stravy SĤO zima FHOi a QHY\SRYČGLWHOQi "buzerace", VSRMHQi s OLGVNêP SRQLåRYiQtP 3URWRåH vy jste tam nebyl, tak jednu SHUOLþNX 'iP\ QHFKĢ þWHQt RGORåt Ti ERUãWt KQXViFL a YČWãLQD jak jsem se SĜHVYČGþLO tam jsou dosud, QiV SRQLåRYDOL za PRKXWQpKR ãWČNiQt WtP åH QiP SUDYLGHOQČ GYDNUiWH GHQQČ SURKOtåHOL QDãH NRQHþQtN\ To jako, jestli si v nich QČFR QHVFKRYiYiPH DþNROLY jsme QČNolik GQt QHY\WiKOL z WČFK GČU paty". Copak asi SURKOtåHOL åHQiP" Mohl bych Y\SUiYČW o panu 'U%RUXVtNRYL QLþHPRYL SUYQtKR ĜiGX NWHUê SRYêãLO v hodnosti i ve funkci a GRYROiYDO se 9iV pane prezidente! O EDFKDĜL MPpQHP .UDWRFKYtO ]YDQê Prdelka, NWHUê PQČ 14 GQt SĜHG SURSXãWČQtP EH]GĤYRGQČ uhodil pendrekem, o HVWpEiFNpP parchantovi MPpQHP 6ODYtN NWHUê byl ãpIHP W]Y9QLWĜQtKR RGGČOHQt na Borech a NWHUê QiV SHUPDQHQWQČ ãLNDQRYDO A i o GHVtWNiFK NULPLQiOQtFK PXNOĤ kteĜt na QiV GRQiãHOL ãSLFORYDOL a XGiYDOL QiV a v WpWR ERKXOLEp þLQQRVWL SRNUDþRYDOL Då do ~SOQpKR RVYRER]HQt v roce 1989!" 1HMKRUãt byli SU]QLWHOp VYêFK dcer a PDOêFK KROþLþHN NWHUp jste v roce 1990 amnestoval. Jak to dopadlo, YãLFKQL YtPH3ĜHGWtP za tuto svoji bohulibou þLQQRVW GRVWiYDOL od HVWpEiND 6OYtND trochu PL]HUQpKR þDMH nebo NUDELþNX QHMKRUãtFK cigaret.
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Mohl bych YiP Y\SUiYČW o QDãLFK PLOêFK VSROXREþDQHFK v XQLIRUPČ StB MPpQHP -iURã 1ČPHþHN þL =iNUDYVNi o SURNXUiWRUHFK Hugo Knauerovi þL %UiEOtNRYL VRXGFtFK %DODWNRYLâSU\ĖDURYL Filipovi þL 6OH]ikovi a FHOp SOHMiGČ GDOãtFK NWHĜt PQČ jeden po GUXKpP soudili a SĜHVWRåH jsem byl ve smyslu ]iNRQD nevinen, musel jsem tuto nevinu SURNi]DW Mohl bych KRYRĜLW o policajtovi s SĜt]QDþQêP MPpQHP Kapoun a o ĜDGČ WČFK NWHĜt PQČ zcela EH]GĤYRGQČ buzerovali WtP åH PQČ SĜHGYROiYDOL na GRSUDYQt LQVSHNWRUiW ]DGUåRYDOL WHFKQLFNp RVYČGþHQt nebo SĜH]NXãRYDOL z pravidel VLOQLþQtKR provozu. 7DNRYt to byli KRGQt policajti. 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http://www.lidovky.cz/masinuv-dopis-vaclavu-havlovi-z-roku-1996-f0j/ln_redakce.asp?c=A110813_142709_ln_redakce_spa
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neoconu, Havel s Medkem a Tigridem od pocatku v zoldu zahranicnich kapitalistu a
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